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[IMPLEMENTATION] Freeze All non-Platform Grant Spending

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Author0x5b5c…e244
PublishedFeb 14, 2024 21:26
Voting beginsFeb 14, 2024 21:26
Voting endsFeb 28, 2024 21:26
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This proposal outlines a clear pathway towards the implementation of the proposal aforementioned, specifying its timing, better defining the definition of Facilitation squads, and budget percentage allocation.

76 Comments

daoMar 24, 2024

[IMPLEMENTATION] Freeze All non-Platform Grant Spending This proposal has been ENACTED by a DAO Committee Member (0xbef99f5f55cf7cdb3a70998c57061b7e1386a9b0)

daoFeb 28, 2024

[IMPLEMENTATION] Freeze All non-Platform Grant Spending This proposal is now in status: PASSED. Voting Results: * Yes 79% 17,018,185 VP (75 votes) * No 16% 3,744,498 VP (16 votes) * Abstain 5% 1,290,922 VP (14 votes)

BannedFeb 27, 2024

oh you are the hero we need. I thought this was an alt account created to complain and fud.

UnknowerFeb 27, 2024

> Do not allow the Platform grant to be used to fund private business enterprises. Is if safe you assume you are unwilling or unable to provide an answer on what this is supposed to mean?

BannedFeb 27, 2024

as always, just responding in kind

UnknowerFeb 27, 2024

Are you going to once again resort to personal insults and attacks instead of explaining your ideas like an adult?

BannedFeb 27, 2024

Is it safe to assume you are going to delete this like you did the tweet you made about it last week that got no engagement?

UnknowerFeb 27, 2024

> If Polygonal Mind wants to apply for a grant to make a better version of the FTUE that’s fine. Is Polygonal Mind is not a private business when they're creating something for the platform then? > If someone wants to apply for a platform grant to do their private business that hosts video streams without open-sourcing the code and building it in a way that is contributing to the platform in a foundational sense, that’s not okay. Is there an example of this happening before? Open-sourcing your code is already a requirement of the platform category. If a business builds some external tool for Decentraland, and open sources the project, but also asks for money to run their own main node so people can actually use it without having to stand up their own server, does that count as the DAO funding private business enterprise? Or are we just going to keep LARPing as government officials and pretending like regulations in the real world don't require definitions?

BannedFeb 26, 2024

It’s called CartL insurance. ![IMG_2208|690x332](upload://otNWjVaDp3Kqvr5k7M9ZEv4lrOL.jpeg) Would you like to join my alt account club?

starvoteFeb 26, 2024

2 days remaining for this vote to end. The tally looks like this: ![image|251x500](upload://vSZe8Szaw1fA8Cirmn7JpXIeKpl.png) 8.5M votes were added to the winning option to prevent actors from swinging the vote at the eleventh hour.

BannedFeb 26, 2024

I don't feel like you actually read my response or understand the context of the vote.

CheddarQuesoFeb 26, 2024

Anyone who's paycheck is on the line here should not be voting.. it is a direct conflict of interest to vote on a proposal that will result in a financial gain for you.

BannedFeb 23, 2024

If Polygonal Mind wants to apply for a grant to make a better version of the FTUE that's fine. If someone wants to apply for a platform grant to do their private business that hosts video streams without open-sourcing the code and building it in a way that is contributing to the platform in a foundational sense, that's not okay.

UnknowerFeb 23, 2024

[quote="NOTn0tjar0d, post:9, topic:21960"] Hiding behind an alt account isn’t exactly going to do anything besides further undermining the credibility of Decentraland as a platform or the DAO as a meaningful orgnization. [/quote] Oooh, the irony.....

UnknowerFeb 23, 2024

So are we saying grant *deliverables* cannot benefit outside organizations? Or are we saying grant *funds* cannot go towards outside organizations? Option 1 eliminates the option of the DAO doing a NASA/SpaceX sort of contract where the technology built by private business enterprise drastically reduces costs for the public sector, and they therefore work together out of mutual benefit to one another. Option 2 means what...we can only hire individuals? Are non-profit groups okay? Can an individual or a non-profit hire a for-profit company for assistance? What if someone is a single-member LLC? Is that a business or an individual? "Private business" is extremely vague terminology, as whether or not you're a business ultimately depends on how you do your taxes. Speaking for the US of course. Which begs the question - is someone going to be in charge of auditing and enforcing how every grant recipient is filing their taxes? Wouldn't the candidate for such a position need intimate knowledge of the tax code...for every country on Earth?

BannedFeb 23, 2024

Unless your private business is Decentraland or the Decentraland DAO it would seem difficult form a Platform Grant to benefit it. ### 2- Platform [#](https://docs.decentraland.org/player/general/dao/overview/grants-program/#2--platform) Platform grantees create tools and applications that extend the power of the Decentraland platform or provide alternative ways to explore Decentraland’s ecosystem.

UnknowerFeb 22, 2024

The original proposal stated that it would "...not allow the Platform grant to be used to fund private business enterprises." What defines a private business enterprise in this context? How will this be implemented or enforced?

LandlordDaoFeb 22, 2024

why not raise the VPs or doubled or triple instead freeze all the grant?

NOTn0tjar0dFeb 21, 2024

[quote="serenaelis, post:62, topic:21960"] I’m going to talk to Esteban @esteban personally about this [/quote] The only nice thing Esteban has ever said to me was about supporting the freeze. It should also be noted this is more like an amendment to the poorly written, but already passed, freeze that specified the facilitation squad would remain able to apply for grants. Nothing about this prop will stop the ability to vote no on squad grants that are not promising adequate work

serenaelisFeb 21, 2024

![image|640x499](upload://y9Hr81lmVyMwISJOtpKI0H3w8gX.jpeg) ![image|296x500](upload://fR5Ky2IVHPAHgiM7pvuiUsmnjpF.jpeg) Sand is at .49 cents now giving away 1 million sand and if they have 200 creators that’s equivalent to 1 million dollars in funding for one project alone. Bringing users and creativity during the bull market. If you wanted to freeze funding should have done it along time ago, which I thought was already done before … I didn’t see the benefits or how effective it was @esteban

serenaelisFeb 21, 2024

Interesting approach. Never heard of any platform doing well, without content. not in this lifetime Will any platform succeed without content, Nobody here knows the repercussions of this. You think this is going to make sense, you don’t actually know it’s going to work, and know if this is affective and do not know the future. personally all grants should be frozen. Not just certain categories. I knew you would spice it up and bring my own stuff into this… lol this is all personal opinion saying something isn’t working or not I don’t listen to this rubbish. I’m going to talk to Esteban @esteban personally about this, cause the biggest obstacle right now are people doing and saying whatever they please and want. This timing of this is horrendous, this is the time to have more content then ever before, we are in a market for the bitcoin halving. MANA will go up, we should have things to do and projects Even if it’s for small amounts or a creator funds. CONTENT IS KING 🤴

HPrivakosFeb 21, 2024

[quote="serenaelis, post:60, topic:21960"] What is the use for a grant support squad with out grantees What is facilitation squad facilitating With no projects and a dead space because creators are the least important. [/quote] - There are still grants, but they will be about working on the platforms and building tools rather than content. There is also bid & tendering still available for everything and every uses. - The DAO can still evolve while the content grants are frozen, working on VP, diversification of the treasury, organizing the DAO in more efficient ways, etc... - The space is already dead, despite the 13M USD of grants over the last few years, at some point we need to admit that content don't bring users, or at least don't retain them, as long as the platform itself is not ready. We are wasting money on content while the platform is not good. Just look at some streaming platform like Mixer, backed by Microsoft, which spent MILLIONS to get the most populars creators to stream there, and still failed in part because the platforms were not good. [quote="serenaelis, post:60, topic:21960"] I really want to know the REAL reason WHY are doing this? [/quote] Content grants, including yours, have no real impact on the number of users and "onboarding", just look at your stats and be honest with yourself. I would be terribly discouraged by seeing that my events are doing this poorly, and it's not primarily because of the events themselves, it's because the platform is unstable and hard to use. Let's just stop wasting money on content for a while while making the platform easier to use, with better tools, better non-code builders, new clients with good performance, that don't regularly crash and which don't break scenes every weeks because of untested updates.

serenaelisFeb 21, 2024

I have so many questions, because I was in favor of this up until I see only certain people are allowed to continue to get funding What about the creators ? I was listening to your space last night All I heard of this implementation is to deter the ‘bad actors’ away 🤔 But this seems kinda shady. Just Reading this off the bat ( the wording, the small texts and information towards the end. I’m not convinced, that’s the reason for the freeze. I have questions What is the use for a grant support squad with out grantees What is facilitation squad facilitating With no projects and a dead space because creators are the least important. The bad actors lingo is lost it’s power in words cause people through these words around so frequently. So far everyone here is a bad actor and a scammer. I really want to know the REAL reason WHY are doing this?

serenaFeb 21, 2024

The title of the proposal is a little iffy …. As it sounds like ALL will be at a freeze Till you scroll all the way DOWN And read this *ONLY Governance Squad, Grant Support Squad, and Facilitation Squad will be eligible to apply in those categories for the remainder of 2024* But WHY ? Why not freeze all like the title says … That’s confusing to be honest. I don’t think it’s fair at all, and on top of that I thought voting on our own proposals is wrong ? Something doesn’t seem right here.

BdugeFeb 20, 2024

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