Permanently ban jar0d
Proposal Details
Description
The Decentraland DAO Discord server is a place where many community members gather in hopes of engaging in relevant and insightful conversations pertaining to the Decentraland DAO. While disagreements often occur, for the most part the community is able to engage in these disagreements respectfully. However, community member jar0d has a very long history of being verbally combative and disrespectful toward nearly all other community members, and engages in this activity nearly every single day. In fact, since the DAO instituted a mute mechanism, jar0d is one of the most muted member of the community. Jar0d has repeatedly referred to community members by disrespectful an derogatory names that include but are not limited to: Dumb Bitch Bitch Bigot Transphobe Sack of Shit Human Fleshlight Jar0d's vulgar language inside the server and in the DAO proposal discussions forums, which often includes profanity angers and escalate tensions between himself and other community members. As a result of Jar0ds disruptive conversations, on many occasions the entire channel has been put on a cooldown to slow communications. In effect, due to the actions of one instigator, the entire community is constantly being punished and therfore cannot effectively communicate. In my opinion, having observed the discussions of jar0d over many months, and despite the innumerous warning he has received to cease (and many mutes), he has continued to irritate, antagonize, and intimidate good people to the point many no longer choose to participate in DAO discussions out of fear of being verbally attacked and abused by jar0d. While some have called for more forceful moderation, I believe that action is an unnecessary policing of the entire community to simply mitigate the unacceptable actions of one member.
I trust the moderators to use their discretion in removing people who are trying to scam or deceive our community, which I think is what the vast majority of cases would be. If there are other instances of people being permanently banned from participating in the DAO just for using offensive language, then I’m against those instances too.
if youre referring to being banned from the discord, That is different. The dao discord is controlled by mods who can ban people if they see fit. This is a permanent ban from all DCL platforms which requires a community vote
[quote="Unknower, post:29, topic:20048"] Removing people you disagree with is the first step to tyranny. If the DAO can be used to enact tyranny, I think it’s safe to say this experiment in governance has failed miserably, and the community should “act accordingly”. [/quote] How come some have been banned without a reason or warning or vote for that matter yet we are here talking about free speech?
glad im not only one to see how far this has come.
Jar0d and I haven't always gotten along. But if unpopular speech is not protected in Decentraland, then no speech is protected in Decentraland. Removing people you disagree with is the first step to tyranny. If the DAO can be used to enact tyranny, I think it's safe to say this experiment in governance has failed miserably, and the community should "act accordingly". Edit: To be as clear as possible about where I stand, I don't like seeing toxicity from anyone. I'd really prefer if everyone followed the very simple golden rule - treat others the way you want to be treated, and love your fellow DAO member as yourself. I don't like to see anyone turn a difference of opinion into an opportunity to attack someone personally. That said, everyone has the ability to block or mute people who they don't think are capable of contributing in a civil and intellectually honest way. All of these "Yes" votes could just use Discord's existing feature rather than escalating this proposal.
You are already banned. What are you talking about?
Permanently ban jar0d This proposal is now in status: PASSED. Voting Results: * Yes 56% 7,477,395 VP (110 votes) * No 43% 6,027,249 VP (45 votes) * Abstain 1% 238,188 VP (9 votes)
For round 3, I will make sure to have extra :popcorn:
You can always re-join by creating alt accounts, the problem with that is no one will know you are the real jar0d and there won't be anyway to authenticate that it's you. In lamen terms anyone can claim to be you :wink: As for the rest of the community they will just take it as the bird has flown away from it's cage, never to be returned again. :hatched_chick: This one's a strong contender for top screenshot, knowing how much you love the screenshots. 📸
I have to agree with you Doug, you bring up excellent points. Thank you.
I hope @esteban isn't mad at you. I see that he used the account that he delegated to you to vote in favor of a ban. It seems if he's willing to do that to you, he is probably willing to do it to all the other delegates who have voted in support of me. Guess we can stop pretending I have a chance now. *How long should I wait before making new accounts?*
[quote]@jar0d repeatedly brought up good points, issues and uncovered some pretty important things going on behind the scenes[/quote] This can be done without being abusive. Jarod seems to earn some karma by being nice to certain people, so that he can use it for getting away with slapping others in the face. Banning Jarod doesnt mean he cant come back with a new account, without the abuse. When the abuse happens, mute, ban, and repeat. This is what is called "moderation" which is why we have rules and moderators. Its a novel concept employed by almost every other discord server and forum out there.
Voting no, BUT food for thought for all of us: How many users have left or avoided the platform because of hurtful speech, name calling, and general negativity? If you were a new user, would you feel comfortable jumping into the DAO Discord right now?
 I think if @esteban is concerned about DAO toxicity, it is probably related to the level of targeted vitriolic hate targeted at delegates and community members doing their honest best to make thoughtful decisions and speaking up for what they believe is right. When multiple members of the LGBTQ community are trying to step away from the DAO, and @RobL is currently suspended from the forums for targeting others who have spoken up on behalf of the trans community, it's more important now then ever for the people in the majority who won't tolerate bigotry to speak up on behalf of those who are being targeted with hate for no other reason than how they live their live.   The people trying to vote to ban me for calling RobL a sack of shit or esteban a bitch once, don't have anything to say for themselves when it comes to defending an actual marginalized group of people. If you are only upset when the most powerful men on the platform are spoken to with vulgarity and not when someone actually needs help from bigotry, your priorities are backward and your motivations questionable.
I will abstain on this as I no longer care for the 'official' DAO server.
quit with this stupid shit! everyone has a voice, whether you agree with the voice or not. Yes Jarod can be polarizing, but he has right to voice his opinions just as we all do, and if we silence him, we silence us all, and I'm not for that.
[quote="HPrivakos, post:3, topic:15848"] Proposals cannot be feature request, **they are for enacting things on the blockchain.** [/quote] You are going to be even madder when you finish this song and dance and nothing happens.
[quote="CheddarQueso, post:13, topic:20048"] probably shouldn’t have called Esteban a bitch [/quote] if for no other reason than I'm sick of RobL putting it in a list like he can find an instance of me saying it any other time... Also because it does seem like Esteban took that personally and we will never be friends.
What does me having to explain to you that @jasonX is tweeting bigoted things and that's why you should support banning the name Shemale have to do with anything? You already posted the first image.
 
Banning someone from our community should not be taken lightly and only be done under extreme circumstances. I'm afraid this will come down to how much VP @jar0d has pissed off VS how much VP he hasn't. I think hard before banning, even the most controversial members of our community, because ironically, more often than not, I agree with their position, and believe their POV is valuable. I agree that @jar0d can be incessantly annoying and even insulting... (sorry buddy, it's true.. you are a royal pain in the ass, and probably shouldn't have called Esteban a bitch. lol) I wish he would change the way he chooses to engage sometimes... a lot of times... but I also contend that he speaks for others in the community who are afraid to speak, @jar0d has no fear, and we need that kind of input in our community. Nasty words are not the only way to intimidate or exclude people from our space, and @jar0d repeatedly brought up good points, issues and uncovered some pretty important things going on behind the scenes while the community largely ignored huge grievances in the name of WAGMI and toxic positivity... which really is a thing here. This DAO does not vote objectively, but largely based on alliances, friendships and back and forth favors... we know this to be true. It is easy to deflect from other ways in which people are harmful because they "talk nice" and it's easy to point the finger at the guy who "uses foul language" but who is doing the most damage here in the long run? I am more in favor of keeping Kanwulf as a mod and continuing to use the increasingly evolving moderation and channel diversification tools we have implemented throughout the year to keep our space as healthy and productive as possible. Use the time-out button 1000x if we have to. Progress is slow, but we have made progress, without having to ban anyone. If any community members have been seriously hurt by @jar0d... and I mean seriously hurt... please speak up in the comments. At worse, I am annoyed by his constant bickering, and I would probably not vote to give him money to write about Decentraland given his impulsive behavior and propensity to needlessly insult the platform and other members of DCL, but, so far, I disagree with banning him from the community.
Why are you voting to allow this name to stay and be used to target the trans community? It undermines your claim that my language is the issue. https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-d9bb507-ban-the-name-shemale/19940/10
Rob. You are actively supporting Transphobia in the community. No one paying attention thinks this has anything to do with anything other than your own petty revenge. It's sad.
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Be weary of people who wish to ban, mute and silence. Common things oppressor's and the corrupt do. The rest of us just ignore them and move the f on with our lives.
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