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Grant to Buy Land for New Devoloper (Mayhemv01)

RejectedGrant Request

Proposal Details

Author0x1ce7…9d3c
PublishedApr 30, 2023 06:00
Voting beginsApr 30, 2023 06:00
Voting endsMay 14, 2023 06:00
Snapshot#a897c51

Grant size

5,000 MANA

Tier

Lower Tier

Beneficiary

0x1Ce7…9D3C

Description

I would like to receive a Grant to Buy Land to be developed by me sooner rather then later as the wife already said i could but gunna take me 6 months or more to save. I am unknown and i honestly prefer it that way. I currently have no stake in mana but i plan to mint my name this week and start saving. So i would like to receive funding to buy land earlier then what i can otherwise so i can immediately deploy The Scene i already have working as to start generating traffic If a grant is issued this would allow me to use a months worth of paychecks 5100k net to buy the land and fund webhosting etc otherwise it will take me about 6 months to a year vs a month. (I WOULD HONESTLY PERFER TO JUST HAVE LAND NOT MONEY) but from what i can tell this is not possible https://github.com/Mayhem-v01/DCL_Webacade This is the Proof of Concept Scene I would like to Deploy With the revenue i generate from this i plan to buy more land to develop things like mazes and shooting games as i get better with typescript. I fully intend to be an active developer for IN WORLD CONTENT i will host 2d snes type games made by me with new ones as often as i can think of them or someone makes a sugestion. these will be available via a user interaction with the keyboard on the tables which will open a webwindow with the pygame imbeded using pygbag i may move to gpotdot or unity for these smaller games in the future these will all be ad free and free to play there will also be a live stream on the second floor of old movies and shows for people to hangout and watch also on the second floor in the office area will be another pc that brings users to my printables page for browsing any of the 3d models i have made I know that this can generate a steady stream of both new and returning users I plan to sell advertising space outside on the front of the building as revenue to invest in more land to make other permeant fun locations. So jump in play some minigames, watch some tv , and hangout with friends all at the Webacade ! I can think of worse ways to pass the time.

25 Comments

Mayhemv01May 15, 2023

To open the game file Install python 3.10 Install jet brians pycharm free edition Unzip project and load into pycharm The loader for python 3.10 is located in the folder point ot to it and it should find it when setting up the virtual enviroment Main runs the game the rest load with the main file and are nothing but an easy way for me to sort and work on sections of code Instructions are on main screen along with key inputs The fact i even have to tell u all how to open a python file shows you really dont onow what your doing

Mayhemv01May 15, 2023

I should really not reply as i said i Wouldnt To awnser your questions 1. I did not mint my name for the simple reason it does not really do much of anything but cost 100 bucks as of now untill this changes why bother You say worlds i say hidden so no reason 2 2. As i stated before i did not expect you to fund me but seeing as you wont fund anyone is a shame 3.I WILL NOT PUT SOMTHING THAT NEEDS A PERMANENT LOCATION ON LAND THAT CAN BE TAKEN AT ANY POINT FORM ME WITHOUT MY APROVAL aka i dont rent i own or not at all 4.the game file is in raw python 3.10 code and has to be opened with pycharm or somthing similar alonge with python 3.10 installed was built with 3.10.1 tested before uplaod with 3.10.4 I have not transitoned to 3.11 as id have to recode most of what i have currently and when i started these 3.11 was unstable I hate visual studio I have extensive background wizard class html , flash ,java Master in python and arduino c Learning c for nextion displays Checked out typescript for this looks preety simple not sure why u used it over c tho Grew up on dos 5.0 And win 3.1 Been coding since i was 7 natural gift untought im now almost 40 I dont talk or spell good tho as the right side of my brain is mostly dead to be exact the speach senter is dead so all speach runs threw the logic side I was not trying to get anything free and was willing to negotiate a contract Somthing like if i dont build what i say or finish the project within x time then the land can be reclaimed I would of most likly rebuilt the damn tools myself or made a new one and would not of asked for anything I wpuld of done alot without needing reimbursement just becouse i think coding and building are fun I enjoy learning new things and making new things its my hobbie So this would of been somthing fun which would of made it even better I honestly didnt even care if the lot made money as long as it brought in new players who stated and help revive the game With me then having a vote in the future of the game as you have no real direction or leader and its a mess Inwanted to create the same experience i had the first time i logged on for everyone But give them a reason to keep comming back

daoMay 14, 2023

Grant to Buy Land for New Devoloper (Mayhemv01) This proposal is now in status: REJECTED. Voting Results: * Yes 1% 2,252 VP (16 votes) * No 80% 4,931,249 VP (85 votes) * Abstain 19% 1,157,341 VP (16 votes)

XIIIMay 13, 2023

@Mayhemv01 Hello, I see you've not minted your name and haven't given the consideration of building at a low cost on something that's tangible to you. I also see you've not responded to the idea of using the land being offered by @Canessa. So, at this time, you've been given a couple options for building in Decentraland. Allow me to give you another few options: 1) There is the ability to give you access to a name that you yourself could build on. 2) There is the ability to build if you have a .eth ENS. 3) You can rent land directly from the Decentraland website and it'll only cost you a few mana a week sort of thing. Now, if you're not just trying to reap what you can from the DAO... then utilize one of the many methods of deploying your build that have been suggested.

CanessaMay 04, 2023

As of 5/3/2023 I have not had any reply on my offer of using my lands for free.

ShinyMay 03, 2023

I tried to take a look at your games, but you have committed code as ZIP files which is very suspicious and I have not seen any developer doing it like this. If you make new commits with code outside of ZIP files I can take a look again, but I am not going to download unknown files to my computer. Also Canessa offered you to deploy your scene to her land for **free**, did you try to reach out to her?

Mayhemv01May 02, 2023

I just want to point out that if you would of taken the same 240k and given 5k out to new developers to bring in some new talent You could of had 48 new indys 10 to 15 of which would of been goodq and brought in their users also But yet your policy is basically dont own land we wont help u Except no one is paying you(buying land) to enter a space thats most likly going to fail as public sentament around the project is not good I could not tell you the countless people i ran acrossed that all said the same exact thing I wanted to but the cost of admission is to high And it pretty obvious that this is failing hard look at how much land is for sale Most are trying to sell and flee I will also point out if any of you bothered to look at the game i sent as a repensintation of my coding skills You would of said welcome abord with no doupt i coukd do what i say There are advanced technique being used along with diffrent coding styles along with the player movment was told couldnt be done but i did it And the entire game is on rnd spawn timmers gor everything My point is you didnt even bother to take a look before passing judgment Not to mention everthing the art music sound effects code everything is made by me And i did all this in 2 weeks that entire section of the game music art placeholders etc 2 week of 4 to 8 hours a day for 10 days is all it took me to hand make whats there so far I started working on an ai and am working on the boss for the forst of 5 levels now I built a working ai in a week and a working robot vacuum tank in a month print time killed me Got about 3 days in actual coding I can turn out a game like asterids or pong or frogger in less then a day

Mayhemv01May 02, 2023

As i have already stated i did not expect you to fund me But the fact that your guidelines wont let you fund anyone in my same sutuation is just about the fumbest thing i have ever seen in my life Your platform is failing horably dhe to no decent developers commkng in Then you wont fund a developer enless they own land Thus is the exact recipy for disaster Ill also say i have 0 hope this project will succeed as im not the only one with the same exact mentality Id expect you to not be around in 10 years and nost like wont be here in 5 The fact js you all have no clue what your doing and will be the downfall of wbat could of been somthing special Oh and im headed to second life they do everything you do plus more and better with less then 100 bucks i can do everything i need And this is why your app will fail honestly it already has The only people let are the few with investments The regular player has 0 interest in comming So good luck with your backwords thinking as its extreamly illogical Ya give 240k to a game i could make in my sleep But wont give 5k to someone who could potentially bring in the masses And has already shown a plan Not as if i had no clue what i was doing I presented both a site and a plan showed code skills by letting you all see evo which no one else has seen yet except my testers Hahahahaha

3Point1FourMay 02, 2023

Hey @Mayhemv01, its great that you feel DCL has potential and I hope you find other means to fulfill what you set out to achieve. We, as the DAO community, have a responsibility to each other to ensure that DAO money is spent within community guidelines. As I've mentioned to you before, and I believe most who vote 'no' would agree, that voting down on this proposal is by no means a reflection of our confidence on you, but rather, that we do not agree that this is the best use of funds by the DAO. It sounds like you are a matured person, so I trust fully that you can tell the difference. Edit: After reading your replies, I retract my statement saying you are matured. There's been a multitude of options made available to you since the start of your proposal, and if you truly believe you can make a difference, i'm sure any one of those members who've reached out to you will honour their help. All the best!

Mayhemv01May 02, 2023

Lastly to the list above What makes these successful is not exclusiveness Its easy of use and the abilty to make whatever and show it off for free This is what drives skin sales keeping the average user comming back to do somthing weather its to play or to build Not owning somthing in order to do the exact same thing This is how most see it why would i pay you for somthing you should be paying me for lol Thus, 2023 is dubbed as, 'The Year of the Creators'! Lol now thats funny since this is the only reason i applyed lol

Mayhemv01May 02, 2023

Also im sorry if i came acrossed as speaking down to anyone i am not Or at least im not trying to Im just stating facts and huge missteps i see That could very easily be corrected And honestly im rather plesently surprised by your response i did not expect a warm reply Kinda makes me wanna try and help even more As most places are rather toxic when you point out short commings

Mayhemv01May 02, 2023

https://forum.decentraland.org/t/abandoned-a-proposal-for-land-left-abandoned/50 Right here is what im talking about it was abandoned But the fact it was even an idea in the first place is not ok No one has talked down to me at all And i did not say any of you had I actually enjoyed my time in decentraland The people i met in the short amount of time there is what made me want to try and bring in users to this game I immediately could see a huge gap that needed to be filled somthing i could more then likly do The app itself needs alot of debugging and the builder needs some work both the core of what this could one day become shinned brightly Thats the average interaction i see Now let list games you can do just about the same exact thing it but for free Rec room build free and show to the public Horizon worlds same deal roblox same deal vr chat has the social aspect nailed Sandbox very similar approach and as time passes adding the same features like walking around the actual city Second life very similar Fortnight build mini games for people Gtav build levels for people The list goes on and on The only real difference are nfts but the reality is the nfts dont matter at all Kids dont care about this kind of thing let alone can or will spend 100 dollars for a name or skin or item for their avatars They want fun and ways to show off stuff they made for their friends The core of what your selling is build for people to enjoy and monitize But people already do this they build relese to fans that follow them on you tube etc and make bank My kid pulls in 500 to 600 a month doing exactly this hes 12 Which is my entire point that you all are missing There is no way for the average creator to bring anything to the table If they want it to be actually found by new ppl gotta have land World is so hidden no one really knows ot exists And the fact is world have 0 real world value right now And the fact is another sugestion has been that land owners world are visiable Again cutting out the average kid who has no money to spend but likes to make stuff and brings their friend in with them Then there is the fact you have to pay 100 mana which coukd be 50 bucks or 600 bucks to even make a world is a huge fail HERE IS THE PROBLEM NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY YOU TO BUILD AND BRING IN THERE PEOPLE You should pay them for bringin in new users or at the very least Give everyone the ability to create a world and publish it Change the sign in system from needs a wallet to the average user can sign in and create an account with an email Only if u want to buy or sell then wallet otherwise not needed As the wallet alone is a huge barrier to entry and exactly why the sandbox is doing better My kid can and does have an account and plays games there But he can not log in here and play as is with the majority of your target audience and that exactly how the system currently works you have to pay to do anything And dont tell me contests as no kid is going to do this they are just not patient enoff Not when they can just jump into rec room or vr chat and do more with less I hope you all are staying safe out there Peace,love,and harmony to everyone Peace im out

jar0dMay 01, 2023

[quote="Mayhemv01, post:13, topic:19150"] There are a ton of other games that do the exact same thing as you do [/quote] Name some and explain what part of what DCL does they are doing. [quote="Mayhemv01, post:13, topic:19150"] You all are missing a huge point [/quote] You are not speaking to a monolith that agrees unanimously and this kind of language is going to make it hard for anyone to agree with you once you've declared ALL of us are wrong. [quote="Mayhemv01, post:13, topic:19150"] Anyway sure iv pissed you all off at this point Thats fine dont really care [/quote] I think you are confused about the nature of the community here. Many, if not most people, agree with your underlying premise, it is just the fact that you are speaking down to people as though you are the first person to call out any of these issues that is going to make it difficult for you to find support. [quote="Mayhemv01, post:13, topic:19150"] Its all good tho exactly why i enter as an unknown then i get to see how everyone is treated and what the average interaction looks like [/quote] Are you suggesting you were not treated kindly? All I've seen is people explaining to you the general sentiment of the DAO voters and why it isn't likely you will get support for a grant to buy personal land and than people offering you solutions, including someone offering to let you use their land to demonstrate your proof of concept. [quote="Mayhemv01, post:13, topic:19150"] So if i was holding land then i would be sold inder the new proposal [/quote] Once again I have no idea what you are talking about, but nothing that has been discussed or voted on in the DAO over the last 6 months is anything like what you are suggesting.

Mayhemv01May 01, 2023

Also the last thing i will say is that worlds are not discoverable by people without them having to know its there under your name is going to fail There is 0 indication that worlds even existed how to access it by the normal player or how to enter it without looking up what they even are So pretty much 0 point in anyone other then land owners having worlds Again another huge miss and i already read that u want it so only land owner worlds are visible So agin you will not bring in any new developers the cost is to high lol And why on earth would anyone spend time making a public space thats hidden from the general public Again not very well thought out lol Such a shame to cuz decentraland has alot of untapped potential that will never come You all are missing a huge point There are a ton of other games that do the exact same thing as you do But people can create and relese stuff whenever they want for free with nothing but time as the investment So why would a developer come here vs anywhere else like rec room The main player base you need dosent care about owning land or coins etc they just wanna play the game and add stuff to it Anyway sure iv pissed you all off at this point Thats fine dont really care Not mad about not getting funded but this has brought to light some pretty big glaring issues And now i understand why theres such a lack of in world good replayable content Also the 100k proposial for the wilderness game is a joke right I could if made any of the games iv seen on here for a few hundred dollars and a few month time not 100 thousand you all are getting robbed Which is pretty hilarious honestly gove a land owner 100k to add to somthing my kid could do and has done better But yet wont give 5k to someone with the potential to bring in more users For referance this is a new email created for metas My other accounts have 3.2k followers on google and over 6k on amazon along with over 20k in a few fourms im part of 5th highest kill count in the world in cod black opps at one point and a massive following from that over 1mil everyone wants to know what gun im using was the krig back then and i was the one that made it a meta lol Still have that following but i play warzone 2.0 have not touched black opps in iver a year and passed on vanguard completely I also have a few thousand that follow my arduino ino code releses as i do things they say cant be done with coding All just word of mouth and people who just started showing up So ya i would of brought in a huge crowd of returning players Exactly why im looking for a headquarers to open shop and consolidate all i have to 1 location Its all good tho exactly why i enter as an unknown then i get to see how everyone is treated and what the average interaction looks like And frankly you alls direction needs to be completely rethought Start funding smaller projects and stop giving 100k to fund what a 5th grader can make in their spare time with unity 😆 Really wanted to make this my home but the entire system is Mayhem Usually i enjoy alittle mayhem but in this i see it collapsing with the current plans you have Your not drawing in indys You giving way to much to people for things that dont cost anywhere near what they want And even discussing stealing land from people is just not ok and that alone breaks my trust So what i die but my digital business is fine but my kids dont cash out for 10 years down the road They come to sell as the land price incread only to find 5 years ago you sold it without permission durring a market crash Or the fact i have several wallets most have been inactive now for over 5 years one pushing 7 years cuz im holding So if i was holding land then i would be sold inder the new proposal Not ok alot of land ownser have land to make a profit on the resell later and for them to not logg in is not that hard to belive why log in just to check its still there It better be i bought and own it that does not change with time Ummm H#ll no

Mayhemv01May 01, 2023

Yes iv already gathered that Altho imo this should be rethought So you wont give a grant to someone who is willing to develop the land This is fine not logical but whatever But yet you also complain about land not being developed and plan to use funds to buy it back This is a joke right Im not here to cause any problems but the more i read the more i realize how absurde this is So you need new developers to bring in new players But then you tell a developer whos interested in bring somthing to the space no can do But yet are funding games for 100k or more that should cost less then a grand to make just becouse they own land This is not going to work you are not getting any of the good developers to come here and do anything Why spend money to do somthing that can be done easier for free Its fine you dont want to fund me i honestly didnt expect you to But the replays of how it could be done are a joke And the fact that you wont do this for anyone is absurd There are a ton of great indy developers out there but they all say the same thing if one bothers to read The cost for admission is to high I see what your trying to do but the reality is most are not going to pay to make stuff for people when there are a ton of other games you can do the exact same thing with Without an entry fee Also after reading you all are proposing to take lands from ppl just becouse they have not logged in is stealing and not ok If no ine has used it for a bit then have it defaut to a garden or somthing But to take and sell out from under them thats not ok My crypto wallet had been inactive for over 5 years Not lost just holding And if the wife would ever let me touch it i coukd just buy now but iv got an allowance each month and most of that is spent on the kids So the fact the money is the main problem with getting new developers here you may want to rethink your plan

Mayhemv01May 01, 2023

For some reason i thought you needed to be online for the world to be accessed by others and only when you was logged in could they be used I reread it twice and not sure why i thought that This is a huge step in the right direction and already solves a problem I could just use portals to send people to other stuff linked to my name This opens up alot of possibilities But i still need a site thats in the world as a perment spot to gather Not sure yet how to let people know its there tho without a headquarters Im not advertising i run by word of mouth only Its the one thing i suck at writing and spelling lol Thank you

jar0dMay 01, 2023

[quote="Mayhemv01, post:8, topic:19150"] having to be logged in all the time for it to be found is a huge pass for me [/quote] what are you talking about?

ShinyMay 01, 2023

Grant requests asking for a money to buy land usually are not supported by community, but there are other options: - as it was already mentioned - buy a name and you get a free world with it, although it won't show up in places explorer in DCL, it is still a good place to practice - ask community members to get access to build on their lands (you don't even have to ask, Canessa in a comment above has already offered you that) - participate in contests and win land or crypto with which you can buy land (Sandstorm contests for 3D creators, here is current contest: https://app.sandstorm.co/contest/26, less frequently DCL foundation organized emote, wearable contests, Game Jams, video contests) The last option is how I got my land :)

Mayhemv01May 01, 2023

Land is the only thing holding me and to be honest most devoplops back from making this somthing great I thank you for your consideration I have looked into the name deal and frankly having to be logged in all the time for it to be found is a huge pass for me I can see this being cool for events once a week log in to drop a new maze on my name and its only avalibke for 6 or 12 hours with the fastest time reciving a prize yes that could be cool But the Webacade will be a perment spot in whatever meta i choose And i relized that i submitted a grant request for somthing you all dont do opps my bad I am a builder i like to build for no other reason then to make things fun for people to do or use I honestly dont really care if i make money on anything i do thats not a goal of mine I just like making stuff And learning new things its what drives me Had one of the best stores in fallout 76 lol People used to find me just to visit my build not actually shop Thats just the last public thing i did for fun always had people hanging out as soon as i logged in Always been this way i build and they will come i only ever need time and word of mouth I expect the Webacade to take a bit to gain traction as the spot will have to be opened then web interface done movie loops logos etc done Then word of mouth will have to pass around just like IRL No biggy just takes time Which is why i need it to be a perment spot not a spot that can be taken from me at any point Or only avalible while im logged in and only if you know my name Im to paranoid to spend my time on somthing that could just be delted by someone else who owns it We will see what the future holds but ill probly just save up my money and either buy a spot here or wait for robot era as i really only have time for 1 meta to develop in Right now iv got 3 kids plus an AI (CARMEN) im working on (already works with macine learning) lisens better then alexa as it pissed me off enoff to just make my own,plus games (E.V.O. currently) plus a robot vacuum tank (makeing one better then the ones you can buy as they dont suck hehe its already prototyped and working just needs 995 servos vs the sg90 im using now for the drive works on hard surfaces just fine stalls out turning on carpet at half batt avc 55000 rmp 38 cfm 1.47 static pressure over doubke most romba type vacuums and it dosent get hung up on small things like they do) so iv got enoff time left for 1 meta as this has been a plan just been looking around before i made any requests But i will have a headquarters in a meta thats a fact And i will use this to deploy everything i have and will make Lastly im a stay at home dad so this is why iv got more time then most but its also kinda sporadic i may have a few hours one week or a few days of time for what i want lol I use my kids and his friends to play test hehe as they can tell me more about whats hot and whats not then anyone else And metas are the future it just has not arrived yet to many people of my age who will never touch a vr system and think they are dumb Its my sons age group that is the future and why i plan to make somthing somewhere that will last So it can be left to them after accumulating massive vaule over the next few decades

CanessaApr 30, 2023

I voted no because I don't think it's in the best interest of Decentraland to use DAO funds to buy land. But if access to land is the only thing holding you back, I'll delegate you build privileges to my land free of charge and you can deploy immediately and show us your building skills. We have a channel dedicated to matching land owners with builders in search of land on the Community Building Decentraland discord. Depending on how much you need, I'm sure we can find a way to help you out. My discord is Canessa#7302. Cheers :)

jar0dApr 30, 2023

I don't think it is appropriate for you to use the forum to sell your NFTs. I suspect you won't let that stop you, and few others will care, but I just wanted to call it out as lame.

LandlordDaoApr 30, 2023

There is another easy way you can get land to use instead buy your own land. just Joining our LandlordDao community you can get free lands to use anytime .

jar0dApr 30, 2023

If you buy a name, as you said you plan on doing, you can push your scene to a DCL world and develop your idea there. So if access to land is the only thing stopping you, I think you are exactly the kind of builder they made worlds for.

3Point1FourApr 30, 2023

Hi Mayhemv01. I really love your idea on bringing arcade games back, so please do persist in this. However, a general consensus in the community would be that no grant money be used to purchase LAND. Existential14 has brought up a valid point. The DAO will, in the near future, be starting to purchase LANDs, which will then enable community members to publish their builds (see https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=a315f220-e31b-11ed-ae6b-bdc7e2b26a35). Please do be patient as the process requires both time and approval by the community to be enacted. Once LANDs start to get acquired, you can publish a proposal in the DAO to rent the LAND for the building. I will be voting no to this proposal, not because I have no confidence in it, rather, its a no to using DAO monies to buy LAND.

Existential14Apr 30, 2023

You might be the first to make a proposal to utilize land that the DAO will be purchasing. This is all be voted on currently so it could be a little bit before a decision on how things will be handled but it would offer you the chance to request the utilization of land until you could purchase your own. You can see the proposal I am talking about here. https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=8acd2980-e6af-11ed-b8f1-75dbe089d333