Require a minimum of 10000VP committment to create any DAO proposal This proposal has been REJECTED by a DAO Committee Member (0xfb1afa4dc069ffb47b19dbee196045d508fcd5a2)

Require a minimum of 10000VP committment to create any DAO proposal This proposal is now in status: FINISHED. Voting Results: * Yes 23% 2,034,146 VP (41 votes) * No 72% 6,057,538 VP (56 votes) * Invalid question/options 5% 502,272 VP (2 votes)

I'm OK with a something like a 100VP or minted name minimum but 10,000VP is way too much. This is cutting out lots of people like myself who are actually committed and contribute a lot to the platform but can't necessarily afford having 10,000VP yet.

How did we go from this approved proposal for 100 VP to now 10,000 VP? Why was this not enacted or pursued. Im more in favor for the 100 VP than this proposal. I also believe there is even a more current on for the 100 VP again. How many times do we have to have this discussion in a year? https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=73b95760-c1d3-11ed-95a1-11f47a37eb17

Im voting yes. Someone recently put my project on a dao proposal without my consent. I don't even know who this is, we should raise the bar or come up with other solutions. Or i guess anyone can write bs proposals here for ppl to vote on. https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=847fd5c0-5665-11ee-a204-6d32ab6b9ff8

I typically don't say much in the DAO, but your recent actions in the DAO are very interesting. Pablo, I've always respected your work in the space, so this comment has nothing to do with your creative ability. However, these recent proposals / etc created by you are all geared towards more limitations and have almost been 100% in the wrong direction of the community sentiment by enormous margins (education requirement for voting, now vp requirement for creating proposals). This proposal does nothing to fix anything with the VP problem. This is a no from me. My final comment would be to take to your own advice to Shiny and "talk less, create more." You were way more effective with your creative contributions.

This won’t change grants

No it can’t. Drafts have two options

What about scalating the amount of VP on governance proposals? For example: - poll 1 000 VP - draft 5 000 VP - governance 100 000 VP

you are right especially now mana is low it is indeed really easy for everyone.

[quote="dogman, post:12, topic:20668"] this is a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. [/quote] It would be harder to create proposals from secondary accounts. 100VP is almost nothing, by other hand, grants require 0 VP.

You are right, it can be that way in next draft.

[quote="Shiny, post:10, topic:20668"] I don’t think there are many active communtiy members who have 10K VP on their own and can be delegated (but when the Snapshot starts working I will check it) [/quote] That's good idea, thanks

I agree on 10k, but I have a recommandation lets give the community more options like 10k - 5k -1k That way we can increase the required VP based on what the community wants :smiley:

I agree with @Fehz. The largest, most obvious threat to our DAO is from people with huge amounts of VP. Targeting those at the bottom does nothing.

Make it 500K so Esteban's delegated VP gets more utility :rofl:

I believe there is a bigger problem with people with VP creating draining props then people with no VP creating props. Is there an example of someone with no VP passing a prop that has greatly effected the DAO? seems like this is a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. voting no for now

Ironically, most of spam proposals came from users with large amounts of VP and regular participation in the DAO, so I can't visualize this as a solution.

[quote="pablo, post:3, topic:20668"] it’s 10K not 100K nor 500K [/quote] Nice, that it isn't a lot for you, but for others, it can be a lot. Not even winning Game Jam, emote contest or wearable contest would give someone 10K VP. I don't think many would agree to co-author proposal unless they are also working on a project (specifically for grants). About delegation - I don't think there are many active communtiy members who have 10K VP on their own and can be delegated (but when the Snapshot starts working I will check it).

Hello, I understand your reasoning however I don't see a need to raise the bar at this time. I would rather sort through useless props vs inhibiting valid requests from members who are active but don't have that VP. Having to ask others to delegate VP might create a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" scenario. I am voting NO at this time.

I see where you are coming from. However: why exactly do we need this at this point in time? Not exactly sure which problem that would solve? It's not like there are way too many proposals created for the DAO to handle and we need to reduce that or anything imho... So for me atm: increasing hurdles without solving an issue -> no. Unless I'm missing something? 🤔

[quote="Canessa, post:6, topic:20668"] Can you give us links/references to the other DAO’s you refer to here? Not all DAO’s are created equal, and I would want to look at this with a macro approach. While you may be correct, you include no quantitative data to support your claim. [/quote] You only have to spend a little time looking into [snapshot](https://snapshot.org/#/) and check most known **serious** DAOs. For each DAO, Click "join", then "create proposal". Uniswap -> 10K UNIs DecentralanGames -> 100K DG Aave -> 1.6K AAVE etc., etc. ( you can spend some time to check the amounts in $ )

Can you give us links/references to the other DAO's you refer to here? Not all DAO's are created equal, and I would want to look at this with a macro approach. While you may be correct, you include no quantitative data to support your claim. To me this would bar many users who are actively working hard to contribute to Decentraland from accessing DAO funds, and so I'll be voting no at this time.

I like this initiative; I think it will reduce spam proposals and raise the level of governance, as well as stimulate discussions among Community members. I'm voting 'yes' to move this initiative forward. If this proposal passes, we can form a working group for broader inputs. For example, Decentral Games has certain requirements for proposal submission—you must hold a minimum of 100,000 $xDG. [https://docs.decentral.games/dao/governance](https://docs.decentral.games/dao/governance)

Also, why don't you keep focused on the proposal discussion and avoid bringing unrelated stuff ? It's so unproductive for everyone.