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Should LandWorks landowners keep their VP?

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Author0xd5c2…ccbe
PublishedJun 02, 2023 07:46
Voting beginsJun 02, 2023 07:46
Voting endsJun 16, 2023 07:46
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At the moment landowners who have listed their properties for rent on LandWorks cannot utilize their VP as it's locked in the LandWorks protocol. With the recently [enacted proposal](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=c98bd010-74b1-11ed-a9bf-f772a12a0556) by [Nacho](https://governance.decentraland.org/profile/?address=0x87956abC4078a0Cc3b89b419928b857B8AF826Ed) - Decentraland landowners can now keep their VP when listing their properties for rent on the Decentraland Marketplace . This proposal aims to allow LandWorks landowners to keep their VP as well.

10 Comments

daoJun 16, 2023

Should LandWorks landowners keep their VP? This proposal is now in status: REJECTED. Voting Results: * Yes 37% 1,290,174 VP (56 votes) * No 1% 105 VP (2 votes) * Abstain 62% 2,121,384 VP (27 votes)

zCayelJun 13, 2023

This was your past work, ofcourse it's related, I'm saying builders who are already active members in DCL during the comp, The 'new users' I said that produced uncurated builds who ever they are already have olds accounts now, but back then, everyone has a new accounts, discord, Twitter etc. Clearly there was manipulation the voting is made Private not public, you are not asking money now but I'm sure you are positioning your selves to in the future, I'm just sharing honest experience about your competition event, I don't care if I loss what I care is you are making another moves now. Why are you keep repeating, I'm telling you I have wins and many losses and I don't really talk about neither, what I'm concern about is now. The are only 2 builds that that are utilize & came from legit DCL community member and deserved the win, (my bet they won the lowest pot since its 1x1) And I don't really see that you had big contributions with your pass grant. there are 2 people here sharing our first hand experience in different field. this is really shady, i remembered them being so dodgy with everything during their events. Now i remember i keep waiting for it to be deployed all but i think most of them really arent utilize for DCL maybe they dont know theres a limit? lol they keep rescheduling until i have no more interest to see. and if you try to talk to them anything regarding the event , it was all 1 liner, you asked question now you might get a reply tomorrow or 2.

DichouJun 13, 2023

The statement above is an interpretation from zCayel that is really far from the truth. Voting on the grant winners was open to 250+ community members and they can share their experience. The winners are still active Decentraland builders like Decentralize, Kyle Gordon, Brotocol and more. The user is simply upset from not being picked as winner. The comment has absolutely nothing to do with the governance proposal it is posted on. And comes one year after the grant program is closed. The scenes are on our GitHub available for free to everyone so you can see for yourself if they are bad buildings or not :)

zCayelJun 13, 2023

The way they picked winners on their past grant (competition) are very shady! alot of active builder in the community participated and join the the event but only one dcl member won! all the remaining chosen winners, all of them had new Twitter accounts, Discord all fresh. i remember builder who joined force to do a build! ireally expect them to picked as winners tho no one won it, all those who have won looks like uncurrated builds, they even extend the deployment on in world because most of the builds aren't utilize/optimize for decentraland. thats already 50K USD questionable! what more if we try to dig this deeper??

akasya.ethJun 06, 2023

Hi @Dichou and @fungibletaco, I am hoping for the success of your project. It just seems to me that you are skipping the process, and doing decisions without the $ENTR holder approval. You are bypassing the essence of a DAO. As a previous token holder, I sympathize those who were left behind because you are deciding the future of Landworks without approval from your DAO. I am really bullish on your project but why not do the process right? It will not hurt to propose the Landworks VP so that $ENTR holders know that they are important and the project is progressing well... shout out to Delphi hahaha... ![ENTR|690x345](upload://akt9VU76dcefJlT4dOiiDYHkKqC.png)

DichouJun 06, 2023

First and foremost - @akasya.eth - once again I apologize that my comments were considered rude. Sorry that you felt it otherwise, it wasn't my intention at all. I welcome you to come back to our Discord once again as you are a valued part of our community. About which DAO should vote on the matter. Well…at the end of the day, it’s an implementation that needs to be done in the DCL protocol. That’s why we are using the opportunity with Nacho’s proposal so our users and the users of the DCL renting service to be equally treated. It’s a no-brainer that our users would prefer having the option to vote and decide for themselves if they would use their voting rights or not rather than having the VP locked up in our protocol. Of course those who do not want to vote would still be free to do nothing. So this governance proposal is about equal treatment, not about preferences or gaining advantage. It's about the greater good of both protocols, the openness of the metaverse and the ability to participate in any DAO governance, not only DCL. Voting "Yes" means you are for equal treatment, decentralization and more participation in the governance of DCL

CanessaJun 04, 2023

The above comments are concerning, so I will vote Abstain until more information can be provided.

akasya.ethJun 03, 2023

I have been with you since you raised capital. I know your protocol well until your rude Dichou pushed investors away due to Sharded Minds stuffs. Anyway, I revisited again the EnterDAO governance, and did not see any proposals regarding Landworks VP. It should be voted there first before the DCL, as it seems to me that you are bypassing your own DAO. For clarification, I am not against your proposal. I am very bullish on your project and planning to use it "again" in the future. I also liked to thank you for the effort for DCL rental marketplace.

fungibletacoJun 03, 2023

Hey there akasya! When we launched LandWorks in 2021 the main focus was to democratize land and allow for anyone to utilize a piece of the metaverse. The VP situation really came up afterwards and LandWorks had no intention of "taking" the VP. The pooled VP in the LandWorks protocol has never been used. Furthermore, a couple of months after the introduction of the Decentraland marketplace rentals we saw that a similar situation arose as well for Decentraland - thus the already [enacted proposal](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=c98bd010-74b1-11ed-a9bf-f772a12a0556) by Nacho was introduced. And because thanks to that proposal keeping the VP with the landowner is now possible for Decentraland marketplace rentals, we want to make it work for LandWorks landowers as well. We had a request from our landowners community that they would like to utilize the VP associated with the land they have on listed on LandWorks so essentially we are creating this proposal on behalf of our community. Hope that clarifies the situaiton a bit better. :)

akasya.ethJun 02, 2023

It seems to me that the flaw here is from the Landworks for taking the VP. "Should LandWorks landowners keep their VP?" -this should be voted within EnterDAO governance, am I right? Anyway, let's hope for the success of your project without compromising the DCL rental marketplace.