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Should DAO implement on-chain voting ?

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Proposal Details

Author0x247e…b418
PublishedDec 23, 2022 17:17
Voting beginsDec 23, 2022 17:17
Voting endsDec 28, 2022 17:17
Snapshot#85020b8

Description

Currently DAO uses a Snapshot for all proposals. Snapshot is a off-chain voting tool based on the IPFS decentralized storage system. Snapshot doesn’t use ‘on-chain’ verification. Snapshot sometimes fails to calculate Voting Power. On-chain voting could potentially resolve these issues by moving vp logic calculation on blockchain and making voting available despite third-party failures. Using solutions such as Polygon will help optimize gas fees. There is some software like https://docs.snapshotx.xyz/. This proposal is to understand community opinion on whether the DAO should have an on-chain voting tool to create and store most important DAO governance decisions; not to have a single point of failure in a voting process due to Snapshot lags.

20 Comments

daoDec 28, 2022

Should DAO implement on-chain voting ? This proposal is now in status: REJECTED. Voting Results: * Yes 56% 406,199 VP (92 votes) * No 30% 218,385 VP (16 votes) * Invalid question/options 14% 103,225 VP (2 votes)

web3nitDec 28, 2022

Oh, didnt knew it. I guess one of the main reasons is fees as HP said. What you think of hybrid model where only gov proposals will go through on-chain voting and dao will cover fees? All this using layer2 tech which will reduce them.

estebanDec 28, 2022

[quote="web3nit, post:18, topic:17332"] voting still goes off-chain [/quote] You can always start an on-chain vote regardless of snapshot. Nobody uses this, though.

web3nitDec 28, 2022

voting still goes off-chain through snapshot which lags frequently

estebanDec 28, 2022

Invalid question: The DAO is already on-chain, it's `dcl.eth` on Aragon: https://ipfs.io/ipns/client.aragon.org/#/dcl.eth/

web3nitDec 28, 2022

Thx for reply. There is already snapshot x with layer2 starknet tech which reduces fees. There is two more steps ahead(draft,gov) and the goal of this poll to raise this topic/think about ways how to do itin future but not to implement it asap.

web3nitDec 28, 2022

No, i havent tried it yet :upside_down_face:

ckbubblesDec 27, 2022

While I do think at some point DCL and DAO should create their own ways to vote and function with sites and not rely on a 3rd party, I think for what's available atm snapshot is the best option. And until the DCL/DAO team can create their own on-chain version w out fees, then we should keep what we have. Voting invalid option, as my choice is not a yes or no but somewhere in between.

Existential14Dec 27, 2022

IDK. LOL. I gave up trying to find the fine lines. Does Privacy = Transparency?

TheCryptoTenguDec 26, 2022

they never listen to what you say do they man. smfh

mazafakaDec 26, 2022

Have you tried to change your RPC?

web3nitDec 26, 2022

Second day i cant vote on this proposal due to snapshot lags... [https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=a1b85b10-827d-11ed-8fa2-17dd3f32db26](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=a1b85b10-827d-11ed-8fa2-17dd3f32db26) ![image|299x500](upload://ips6aemHYoVZ5BdQHaGS7XiYuSf.jpeg)

web3nitDec 26, 2022

How about snapshot x or any other alternatives? Maybe we can have hybrid system where poll/draft will be off-chain and most important governance decisions on-chain? There are not so many gov proposals.

HPrivakosDec 25, 2022

There is already on-chain voting through Aragon on Ethereum. We moved away from it because of the 30 USD tx fee for each vote.

mazafakaDec 25, 2022

So "pay" or "pray"? Am I right?

web3nitDec 24, 2022

CurveDAO uses Snapshot off chain voting for initial sentiment polls of token holders, and only proposals that successfully pass the polling stage are put up for an on chain vote. [https://resources.curve.fi/governance/snapshot](https://resources.curve.fi/governance/snapshot)

web3nitDec 24, 2022

[https://docs.snapshotx.xyz/services/relayer](https://docs.snapshotx.xyz/services/relayer) ![image|394x500](upload://4b8cqcg2fMTjIT293Fcrmtm5E4X.jpeg)

TheCryptoTenguDec 24, 2022

yea bro im not paying 1-6 dollars for every vote if thats case consider it another nail against platform. I wana know the answer to your question and will be waiting before i vote.

mazafakaDec 23, 2022

What about the gas fees? Hey, @Existential14 is snapshot centralized platform?

Existential14Dec 23, 2022

If we are to move towards a Decentralized platform then YES it should moved to the blockchain.