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RejectedGrant Request

Proposal Details

Author0xe945…e7b1
PublishedDec 11, 2023 19:13
Voting beginsDec 11, 2023 19:13
Voting endsDec 25, 2023 19:13
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Grant size

40,000 DAI

Tier

Higher Tier

Beneficiary

0xe945…E7b1

Description

Last week our team delivered the first functioning multi player FPS game - snowball fight at 104,51. Next we have issued the smart wearable "Laser Tag Everywhere" that transforms all parcels in Decentraland (except those that block smart wearables) into a FPS game of laser tag. All those who have the wearable equipped can blast other players with the laser gun and see sparkling beams fly through the air and explode when hitting the player. Any objects with collider block the shot. Each player has 10 hit points and a status bar to show their health status. A RIP list shows any participants who were unalived. You can get a feel for the gameplay at 104,51 the wearable is essentially an improved, go-anywhere version of snowball fight or buy the laser tag wearable everywhere and come to fight us. If you have done your homework you'll know Decentraland faced criticism from extremely influential game players and EARNED the title 'dead mall'. If many new players are air-dropped these laser tag guns they won't be saying that. Many in Decentraland do not consider DCL to be a game, the problem is the whole rest of the world sees it as a game and they always will. We need to make sure people are having fun even when a live stream event is not occurring with durable goods. For those who don't know these high action FPS style games bring a bigger crowd and have a larger market value than all other types of games. With monster hall game DCL is on life support right now and the organic value of the land is almost zero. If you don't recognize this then you're simply uninformed. No amount of fake accounts can solve this problem, exciting games are the only solution and right now OG Contra Band is the only show in town. This grant isn't a promise of future work. It's to pay the fee and redeploy works already done. If passed this is the action we will take: Air drop hundreds of Laser Tag Guns especially to new players Bring back the farming game, Dealer Zone and FPS portions Expand core game with several FPS outposts sprinkle on map as budget affords Continue on dynamic loading of FPS game that increases the game-play time. Laser Tag 2.0 - gun will play explosion on more objects in scenes. Visual indicator on player when user is equipped. 6 months of development whatever come - the laser gun can of course be expanded to do teams if that's desired (need to know team selection requirements) I highly recommend large stake holders to bypass the DAO and air drop MANA and land. DCL is in the greatest possible danger due to extremely bad and uninformed decision making. You can see they're admitting to not even visiting those software projects when voting no. Developers everywhere are seeing this is an ecosystem that doesn't value their industry - expectation of zero per hour pay, no players, no ad potential. Game players are coming in and seeing a world of Blender objects that are only ads to NFTs, and games that are broke immediately when loading. Aside from deleted games those games funded most of them are broke we showed documented proof Wilderness is broke immediately upon loaded, KOA was broke on the 1st mission, now broke on 2nd after bug fix. Exodus needs SDK7 upgrade money when we've already done the work and are running all on SDK7. Not only do they work, they are the kind of games that have the highest market value and can bring the most players. This grant is simply to redeploy FPS games that already work.

91 Comments

OGContraBandDec 26, 2023

Of course I already know the origin is not locked down at that time it's not a discovery. We're dipping our toe in to see if DCL is worth our time and we're already starting to see wow there's hardly any players in here. Development was going rapidly and we gave the few people there the benefit of playing the game like normal people not hacking everything and being annoying trying to cheat. It turns out just to be security code made only for you. Come on man you're standing in the land at 6 am when Fredarme's score got messed up I know what you're doing there messing with javascript memory trying to cheat the game. You can fool all these people around, but to me all those accounts standing around that neighborhood are the same person, nothing will ever convince me otherwise and I'm sure the IP addresses on the server logs give the same answer. If another programmer victim comes around making games mistaking this DCL for a real game platform I would suggest to offer to make some nice models to put the robots into with your ads, do a land operator cooperation or make your wolf character one of the game bosses. With the FPS, the farm and arena all deployed in that neighborhood that would bring a lot of potential to the neighborhood. These grants being turned down is a major loss to the neighborhood if you could get over the jealousy of someone making money for doing a work they're trained in. If you know the data those games are by far the most popular scenes even with all the events going on. The neighborhood property values already went down drastically after farm closes.

daoDec 25, 2023

Last Chance To Pay Software License Fees This proposal is now in status: REJECTED. Voting Results: * Yes 13% 1,007,904 VP (40 votes) * No 77% 5,630,638 VP (50 votes) * Abstain 10% 799,492 VP (15 votes)

MetaWolfDec 25, 2023

I have 0 skills on coding, as MetaLuke said he discovered a security issue in your game and reported it to you If we shared feedback on your game (in the early time) was with the sole intention to help you fix potential problems in your game and help you improve it Good products are possibile only with the feedbacks You must learn to listen, no one, ever hacked you You continue to say on your social media (X, tiktok and YouTube) that I have 20 personalities, I’m sorry to delude you, I’m only one I am MetaWolf but maybe you saw me around with my other account “MetaTribePlaza”, that is the wallet where I hold some of the lands that I purchased I’m also sorry, as I said in the interview I’m Italian and I don’t speak a fluent English, probably you misunderstood what I said I bought the land with a long term vision, I allocate there some funds to make illiquid investment, all my lands are given for free to friends or skilled people that want to collaborate, until now I got 0 mana from all my lands, where do you see the passive income? Maybe you made a mistake and you are thinking someone else because I’m not flipping the lands I’m on Decentraland to build with people and friends, not to grab money from the DAO for something that I don’t provide

OGContraBandDec 25, 2023

Again you and your 20 personalities/alter ego accounts were blocked from the farming game due to hacking using web api debugger tools and then after I fixed that you moved on to javascript memory altercation. The poop was due to an error in the SDK7 platform code - remember you also defunded me to work on fixing those bugs. Poop was there only 48 hours at the most after advertising special limited time combo game - poops made FPS more fun. Nobody was bothered except your fake accounts standing on the land all day long. $700 worth of programming time you make me do on the weekend, even if 1 land is totally ruined permanently or transferred to us, that would only make us even. You shared your vision for DCL in sinful interview - your only goal is to make passive money flipping NFTs/land just like you said where I came here to make improvements doing hard work 7 days/week as top software team, based on user feedback who say the game is boring and a NFT sales mall. I only ask for reasonable compensation for software engineering team on work already proven and working. If you want to get jealous over making that money learn programming. No software team can afford to design games for zero players and defunded by the know-nothing DAO who is too corrupt to even compensate the projects already done. DAO funds are only fir the clique to steal and loot. The true colors are seen - DAO will destroy and break all toys like the Grinch. Yes we are leaving the garbage fake gaming platform that is a disguise for a casino. Good luck selling your furry feet pics. Keep making new accounts and standing there eventually someone will visit someday. ![image|405x500](upload://jjxfSZ7ax40K77qAbPB86UE6gI5.jpeg)

MetaWolfDec 25, 2023

gm everyone, as you know I voted no on both your grant request In the first grant I voted no because the games you was working on wasn’t playable, people weren’t able to see the scene (farm) and wasn’t able to shoot at robots (robot scene) You can check my feedback and the proposal here https://decentraland.org/governance/proposal/?id=c0681fa4-35c0-4afb-b803-993ef1545224 In the second grant request (this one) I voted no for several reasons 1. your games weren’t playable so I didn’t get the chance to test them, anyway @bitfiend said everything I wanted to say 2. I voted no also because you caused much discomfort in our neighborhood with your shitty scene (floating poop everywhere) 3. A poop that target players that walk nearby and send them thousand of lands away 4. you are selling your 2 lands where your game is supposed to stay on (one already sold) 5. You gave away some smart item removing the gamification of them before the end of the proposal that was intended to fund that project too How do you think someone can support and believe in you with this toxic and troll behavior? Also I invite you to stop making disinformation regarding the DAO in your social Networks The game was never funded by the DAO, how can it be defunded by the DAO?! I suggest for the new year to stop trolling and change your behavior in a more professional way, maybe you will find investors Plus, your grant proposal isn’t finished yet and has been a week that you are trying to sell your last land on Decentraland, how do you expect that people take you seriously? You showed some developer skill but with your behavior you ruined your credibility, I will never vote yes on you, I don’t mind if I have (or not have) a land near you, behind a neighbor doesn’t mean receive a blinded yes We aren’t kids, if you cry or troll because you didn’t get community funds and make your neighbors uncomfortable you won’t get anything

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

It means there's already $40,000 worth of value just by the redeploy and passing out free laser guns to everyone even if we did nothing else. Continue dynamic loading for more game play - that means more work than previously delivered. Expand FPS -> more work. Laser tag 2.0 was already delivered with 32 hours of coding that not only did those things mentions but addressed user feedback. There was a problem with category when I already put in long day on improvements then a big 16 hour push to deliver finish it and deliver. No matter how I write the grant we can see all games getting defunded. I mean when the platform deletes its #1 ranked world then there's really nothing here. If the DAO wasn't getting looted and robbed they can easily pay monster hall 120k or at least negotiate them down some and fund us to finish up / continue. Real web3 companies or somewhere like facebook are going to pay 1 developer more than the 2 combined.

bitfiendDec 18, 2023

See these are all patch-update-like-notes that should have all been documented and included in the proposal. You are getting there but ultimately this proposal needs to be completely rewritten and re-executed in a better format/fashion with zero mention of how bad decentraland is. Especially because you have so many different games it almost becomes convoluted. So to break it up into smaller parts/proposals would be ideal. To get what you are asking in the way that you are asking you have to provide very detailed information like you have started to do in your last comment that explains and showcases the turn-key potential this has for a game dev. Hard for me to make an offer since I'm not interested in owning or using the engine myself but I still see the potential that it has. For the time being it's yours to do what you wish with I was just trying to give you ideas. I want to point out another massive problem with your proposal and another reason why it will 1. not pass and 2. needs to be rewritten **Per your last comment, you state the grant is for 6 months continued:** > The grant isn’t just for redeploy it says 6 months continued **Per your submitted proposal it explicitly states this is not for 6 months continued work:** > Most grants are forward-looking future promises of deliveries when the authors have a history of mediocracy. This grant is to purchase the software license fees for works already done in SDK7. **Per your submitted proposal it explicitly states this is not for 6 months continued work** > I was instructed by my boss whom you may know as WokeLadyBoss to delete our farming game because the permanent license wasn't paid. **Per your submitted proposal it explicitly states this is not for 6 months continued work while contradicting yourself because it also explicitly states continued work. This is a red flag because it makes us think you will demand more money for any future work done** :triangular_flag_on_post: :triangular_flag_on_post: :triangular_flag_on_post: :triangular_flag_on_post: :triangular_flag_on_post: :triangular_flag_on_post: :triangular_flag_on_post: >This grant isn't a promise of future work. It's to pay the fee and redeploy works already done. If passed this is the action we will take: >* Air drop hundreds of Laser Tag Guns especially to new players >* Bring back the farming game, Dealer Zone and FPS portions >* Expand core game with several FPS outposts sprinkle on map as budget affords >* Continue on dynamic loading of FPS game that increases the game-play time. >* Laser Tag 2.0 - gun will play explosion on more objects in scenes. Visual indicator on player when user is equipped. >6 months of development whatever come - the laser gun can of course be expanded to do teams if that's desired (need to know team selection requirements) **Per your submitted proposal it explicitly states this is not for 6 months continued work** > This grant is simply to redeploy FPS games that already work. *Fix your proposal*

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

Bitfiend, yes this game can look as good as and as many levels as ratscape by the end of dev. I played to level 5 I think. The grant isn't just for redeploy it says 6 months continued. The look isn't the hard part, those game assets can be bought usually pretty affordable then I'm pretty good at doing those models too, but often times better to buy. At least play until you see the robots and 4 story building. All those robots, the building, portait of WokeBossLady is made by me. It's for expansion of course. With deliver the game engine for others to use I'd have to discuss. I mean it could make it much easier for others to make something fun to play like that. User still has to be able to program and problem solve decently but extremely difficult programming burdens are removed. I'm looking through it I think it's best with some more simplifications but could get it there. That runs only in the part I have deployed right now, multiplayer snowball and laser use something different which hasn't been cleaned up as much as the FPS part. I'd say make an offer. It would be for that style of boss behavior you see - character pace between several points (array), character always scanning if they have an attack on player, if character has opening turn to face player and launch projectiles. Programmer can easily change the character model and set xyz pacing up. Programmer can easily set the mp3 files used for attack sound (play round-robin). Programmer can easily change projectile model. Programmer easily set level change and victory sounds. Programmer gets easy access to level change where they can see an example of changing the main set. Create simplified example for awesome repository using the 4 story building with opening ladders. I'm looking through the code now there's about 2-3 weeks full time to get it in final form from where it is today. Level changing needs the slick function call backs, some things need moved out of main file programmer will be using. It's most of the way there though.

bitfiendDec 18, 2023

When you allow others to make you mad (or furious) you give them full control of you. I think it may be possible that maybe comments you heard were not meant to offend and people that said it did not know the context (or the creator). I wondered about the design and I thought angry wheelchair lady throwing flip flops at me was fun/funny. As long as it was made in good light anyway... and seems like it was, so that's a plus. As a business owner (You can call me WokeManBoss) I'm not a nightmare. I am a pleasant dream. So I'll pass on playing a game that is intended to be fun with someone that is angry and wants to "kick my virtual ass" one last time. Having played angry flip flop lady game for about 20 minutes already the third level is pretty tough since there's an angry lady around every corner making it impossible to hide but it was not bad. AngryLadyBoss got me good. I think that showcasing the game for what you've done and requesting a grant for future development where the game is expanded to a world or bigger land so you have a ton of room to work with you could easily make a doom or wolfenstein-like fps on decentraland that, if you lay out the proper timeline, a grant is possible (for future dev work) but I think in its current state your game is more of a showcase. Have you checked out that rat scape game? /changerealm MetadyneLabs.dcl.eth If you haven't you should. I think it will give you ideas. I think something like this but FPS playthrough instead of portal style would be dope. While I understand the engine you've made behind a functioning fps game in decentraland I just don't see the DAO paying to own the engine or the license to use it or whatever but I can see the DAO giving you a grant to deliver more and expand your game using your engine that will, for the most part, always be yours. Can decentraland DAO buy this from you maybe in the future? I don't know, I think anything in the web3 space is possible. Except for this angry pay me or else approach. I know people that have made complicated designs like this (not fps, but other functions) and the code ends up on the decentraland awesome repository. If someone else wanted to use your engine to create something at that point you could sell usage rights of your engine to that person or maybe even back your designs and engines by an NFT project where holders have some kinda access to it. There's a lot of options and ways for you to grow your project! I'll check it out again if I get time, I have a busy monday. Have a great and productive day.

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

I have made the deployment. I agree with you - when we have to make your character play a certain role and not the boss to defeat in the game it's not right. I'm glad you spoke out as it's not my position to tell your business and I respect your wish not to be in the forefront / public eye. Thank you for your service. Bitfiend go to play it, if you have any knowledge of indie game development you'll know right away that's full time work. As weekend approaches I'll try again on land sale.

WokeLadyBossDec 18, 2023

Come to fight me at 104,51. As a disabled combat veteran and a minority lesbian woman entrepreneur in web 3 I was furious that some people said disabled people should not be represented in the game, or that if they are in a game it should only be as a character to take pitty upon or good guy. I'm not the one to pitty, I'm the worst nightmare. OG made characters out of both of us just from a picture and put me in the game DecenTrollTerd Slayer. It's amazing. I just tell OG to put DecenTrollTerd Slayer back in for a few days since land isn't even selling just so I can kick everyone's @&& with my shoe one last time.

bitfiendDec 18, 2023

With all due respect sir, you deleted the games and sold the land. We are unable to try them. So the vote stands as no. I am not in any sort of cabal, however; I do know that if you approach the DAO properly, you can still get approved for the grant. Not this "Pay your licensing fees or ELSE!!!" nonsense, you're doing it wrong. I could say that at least 75% of the reason you are being voted no on is your approach and lack of information. Instead of giving more detailed information most of your proposal just talks about how dcl is a dead mall and is irrelevant to the proposal itself. I know that some whales delegate their voting power to community members. You can even apply for some voting power of your own. ReMovEd fRoM cOiNbAsE MANA is on GBTC's portfolio. Centralized Exchanges are becoming less and less important. People still bought XRP when coinbase dropped it ;) The removal of a coin like mana from coinbase would be a massive bull flag and people would flock to a DEX to get their hands on some.

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

What's it matter to you if someone gets a grant for doing good work? I've seen so many grants they're not going to bring nearly the people as good games. Look at the stats every top scene for pulling people is a game - yet all the games are getting defunded here even the #1 world. Let me teach you about DAO. The D is for Decentralized. Here we have about 8-12 people who make the decision and it's pointless for the others of DCL to even vote - it's not decentralized - so much so that SEC should declare this a security and remove from Coinbase. They're called legislators because they're born to be corrupt and hand money out to their friends. Anyone with eyes can see it's corruption, favoritism. We have a right to be mad when I'm working 16 hour days often investing heavily then someone comes and votes against us without even trying the games. If they don't want in politics they should not be a legislator, or quit looting the DAO funds and attacking the MANA holders by defunding games. Clearly you wont get this upset if you're not in the Cabal and benefitting.

bitfiendDec 18, 2023

I work harder than you ever will. I think it is you who needs to get a job since you are trying to pay your bills using DAO money. I don't need DAO money to pay my bills lol. I think a more stable source of income is something you should consider. I have helped create two smart wearables and it was all funded without the need of a grant. It's funny you say that bout me commenting on your terrible proposal because I *rarely* comment on these forums. Think about how bad your proposal is that I took the time to comment. Most proposals are decent but this one is just not right so I wanted to help you. One of my hobbies is Decentraland and Web3 and I enjoy teaching and educating people about it. I stated in an earlier comment that this was an exercise for me. The exercise was that I found a really confused individual (and his lady boss) that are not understanding how any of this works so I wanted to give you some advice in hopes that you would understand. It is unfortunate that I have clearly failed but I know the information I wrote here is all solid. If you were to include a very detailed log of all the documented hours you have working on these games it would go a lot further than simply claiming you've been working on this for 6 months 50-80 hours a week. Again, you already deleted the games so your $40,000 request is very invaluable since you already deleted them. The promise to bring them back is not important since it is clear that no one really cares if you bring them back or not. This is not a random small sized grant on the internet. It is a $40,000 grant on Decentraland, a metaverse that I am invested in (the mana in my bitfiend.eth wallet isn't all the mana I have) so when I see nonsense like this proposal I wanted to help you understand. It is unfortunate that you won't understand. Refund or not you are still trying to syphon $40,000 out of a platform I care about in an unethical and unprofessional way. As an investor of this platform I consider it, in part, my platform. I still strongly urge you to break these many projects of your own that you've built into different proposals. consider how you will monetize your project so that it is self sustainable and include that in your individual proposals and it will go a long way. I know you can do this. in regards to mental instability, you have bashed more than once the very platform you want money from while bashing the very people who have the voting power to give you the grant. You may want to look in the mirror.

InJesterrDec 18, 2023

the release date is 19th and the rc is having a meeting with me on the 20th to release marketing funds so that your the only one there is only logical 😂👍🏻

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

Get a job. Commenting on our grant seems to be your main hobby. What's your obsession? It's not healthy to be obsessed with some random small sized grant on the internet. Sir you may want to see a psychologist. You got a refund and still you're here every 10 minutes to say something. It's not healthy. Go study programming if it drives you insane that software company wants 40k for 6 months full time - and could easily get way more from more legitimate company. Yes every week minimum 50 not only for laser tag but for all 5 pieces over 4 months roughly. The only exception Thanksgiving holiday. I suggest you don't write on here again. It's making you look unstable IMO.

bitfiendDec 18, 2023

it took you 50-80 hours a week to code laser tag? Just want to remind you that we are not talking about the other games anymore. You already deleted them, so it makes no sense to talk about them. 50-80 hours a week to code laser tag? For how many weeks? Wait you got paid already for the work you did and you want to be paid again? 50-80 hours a week and that is the best oversized non-centered crosshair you could come up with? > Blockquote I believe boss MAY allow for a permanent/full edition of laser tag that includes any small bug fixes found to try to recoup some of the cost, but nothing else She may allow it huh? You guys are all over the place. "We're already out" "Not another line of code" *proceeds to update crosshair to make it more centered but still off center* "We're never going to come back!" "We MAY leave laser tag with a permanent edition" Think about how scatter brained all of this is.

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

How do you think I paid my bills? All that code was 50-80 hours per week, not part time, not even close. I didn't even go live with music for months everyone knows I go live several times per week on tiktok usually, no new track released the whole time. I'm not rich no way to be making code for that long without investor. I believe boss MAY allow for a permanent/full edition of laser tag that includes any small bug fixes found to try to recoup some of the cost, but nothing else. Sad the game engine I made will be wasted when it's ready for rapid expansion and DCL really needs that whether realize or not.

bitfiendDec 18, 2023

The potential to sell all 5,000 Laser Tag NFT's for $10 a pop is there. It could take a while, but that's business. $10 x 5,000 = $50,000 Again, you don't know how web3 works. Yes, web3 devs are on a higher-paid scale. I'm curious how much web3 related dev work you had to do in order to make the laser tag game work? It's my understanding that portable experiences (smart wearables) are coded in Typescript. Again, you are not fully aware of how Web3 and DAO's work. A Decentralized Autonomous Organization is basically run by the community. You have to impress us and win us over to get DAO money. This is not a way to win us over. By coming in the way you did, it's not an impressive first impression. The $40,000 you are asking for is for a handful of games that you've taken away and nobody seems to miss along side the laser tag game that is obviously still there but clearly not worth $40,000. I would suggest that when this proposal gets declined that you put up a better one. If you want help writing a good proposal there are a lot of people here that i am sure would be willing to give you some advice. Start small. No one paid you $24,000 to code laser tag, surely, so ask for a grant to continue developing laser tag with a reasonable number with more details that doesn't involve bashing decentraland or other dcl games in your proposal and you might get somewhere. The problem here is that because you are demanding money in order to keep laser tag active for work you already did it clearly implies that you will expect to be paid for any future development that you do for your project. Grants are supposed to help you kick start your project so that it becomes self sustained. Not "go for a proposal every time you write a line of code". Since you will more than likely demand more money and since working with you is like walking on thin ice it is possible that if we don't continue to line your pockets you will eventually rug the laser tag regardless of how much money we give you. With that said it would be very risky and a bad idea for anyone to vote yes on any of your proposals.

OGContraBandDec 18, 2023

I wish you good luck in your game, but I can see I'm the only one in there. Basically what you're saying is even if you spend thousands of hours making the best game DCL has ever seen - please don't pay me - I will just sell 10 NFTs but don't dare pay me - I'm a free web3 programmer. Bitfiend keeps saying I don't know web3 - actually web3 dev usually makes more than other sectors. Most web3 devs if you tell them 40k for 6+ months they'll laugh in face. I would say manage expectations on here.

InJesterrDec 17, 2023

[quote="bitfiend, post:73, topic:21399"] YOU RUGGED IT ! REMEMBER? [/quote] How can we trust him with 40k if the whole project depends on him getting angry or not really I wonder...

InJesterrDec 17, 2023

Have you grinded for skills? I think you should try checking these tutorials: [Skill Combos: Mastering Duel Arena's New Battle System (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhdyJLS-_Pc)

bitfiendDec 17, 2023

Of course I never played OG Contra Band Farms. YOU RUGGED IT ! REMEMBER? Not because Decentraland Defunded you, because you were never funded in the first place! You rugged it because you're mad! So TALKING about your game that YOU RUGGED is pointless because it's not here anymore! Talk about something that's relevant! Like how you say the FIRST STEP to EVERY GAME in decentraland is BROKEN. How ridiculous do you sound?

OGContraBandDec 17, 2023

Portal just says need a skill and the message is off screen. There are all those characters there that could say how to play the game. I had a scarecrow that looks at all the game state variables and tells the user what step is next based upon their game state. ![image|690x349](upload://teLO2srS00cio20Bgj50uHaDQ0C.jpeg)

InJesterrDec 17, 2023

Maybe but just maybe try to learn basic game mechanics, you have to go in battle in order to see battle or are you too lazy to check out the video? orr maybe stick to FB games instead because seems like you dont wanna admit your wrong and also maybe you dont want the capacity to either learn or dont have the capacity to learn. The dandelions and etc, are there to resonate elemental skillcards. It might not be what you expect since you the think and believe the only type of game that exist = FPS gaming but welcome to Turn Based Strategy sir!