Should Tudamoon be Unbanned from the DAO Discord This proposal has been ENACTED by a DAO Committee Member (0xbef99f5f55cf7cdb3a70998c57061b7e1386a9b0)

Should Tudamoon be Unbanned from the DAO Discord This proposal has been PASSED by a DAO Committee Member (0xbef99f5f55cf7cdb3a70998c57061b7e1386a9b0)

Should Tudamoon be Unbanned from the DAO Discord This proposal is now in status: FINISHED. Voting Results: * Unban 92% 2,950,716 VP (130 votes) * Keep ban 6% 207,988 VP (27 votes) * Unban but mute 1% 3,809 VP (6 votes) * Invalid question/options 1% 25,936 VP (71 votes)

[quote="Matimio, post:47, topic:17773"] I never said multiple racist attacks, only the one. [/quote] Whats this?  I want you to clear my name. Nigeria is not a race also. You need to stop accusing me of racist attacks.

I've been through this over and over. I am done with the back and forth. I never said multiple racist attacks, only the one. I have laid out all the reasons for the ban across multiple forums and threads. This proposal was meant to bring this to an end as much as possible and present your argument and my argument objectively, based on our previous engagements. And I should not have taken the bait and re-engaged in the back and forth after being tagged.

Can you also specify the multiple cyber violence attacks that you claim as well as Multiple Racist attacks? I am tired of your libel.

This ban was never based solely on your activity in the Discord server, and I have been clear about that from the start.

@Matimio I am asking for ANYTHING coming from the DAO DISCORD SERVER that I initiated TOXIC behavior. Yeah I know you can't find it. However, I saw a ton of TOXIC talk behind my back on the server while I was gone, just because all you mods agree and I wasn't there does not mean it wasn't TOXIC.  LIE  SHOW ME WHERE IN THE SERVER  Show me  I find this whole conversation disrespectful and libel. Where is the proof from the server? Thank you! Once again, how is your first screenshot toxic? I was replying to a false accusation about me. If you don't believe their comment was toxic, then there is your own bias. I have not DOXXED anyone. You are committing libel here. You doxxed yourself. Chris Oniya was doxxed already also. This is all in the public. That second screenshot was in a private message between @HPrivakos and I. I stand by it. Did you really think I knew he wouldn't share the message?:wink: I was completely disrespectful to that person in a private message, NOT on any public server and NOT on the Forum. **Reaching much?** Can't find it from your DAO Discord Server? hmm :thinking: However that person, still gets their nose where it doesn't belong and then claims to be a mental health fanatic, but when I point to them that I am being attacked. Chooses to do nothing. Seems hypocritical to me, but what do I know. If it is about mental health for them, instead of choosing a side, either ignore the situation or help mediate it in a way to remove the hate. Instead they stuck their head into a situation, immediately pushing down my point of view. That **1 private conversation**, I admit to being completely disrespectful. I told them how I really felt about them. I was honest. I hope she shares it and you can see the difference between true disrespect and your fake reaching about TOXICITY. I know you are perfect in God's eyes. You can't do no wrong.

[quote="Tudamoon, post:41, topic:17773"] I challenge everyone to find evidence besides what I said above my last paragraph of TOXICITY [/quote]  You Dox people. You have implied and direct threats in your posts and DMs to people. There is an attitude of respond to my "hard questions", answer me, acquiesce to my demands, OR ELSE. This above is just one example, there have been a number of others, including full proposals, that have been deleted or threats made behind closed DMs. For example:  These are all old arguments being rehashed now, and hopefully for the last time. I am done with any further back and forth on this specific issue, unless it is moving toward a broader and long term solution to community moderation of our non-decentralized public spaces, such as Discord and the Forums. This ban is done with this proposal. Moderation is no longer the responsibility of DAO Facilitators. There are some in the community who see your threatening mode of engagement clearly, and others who don't, and that is fine. I do hope for both your own sake, and the sake of our community, that you can find the level of self-awareness and introspection that you claim to have, and can see how you cause others harm. Ultimately we as a community have to live with and amongst ourselves, and the type of culture we have will draw in and push away certain types of people... :peace_symbol: :rainbow:

Hey Folks arent you tired of saying how bad is Tudamoon. :smiling_face: Lets talk about some more important issues such as vp distribution or whale voting.

Let me guess everything I say is toxic???  I literally went back in my search history and the only thing I see was heated was after the false TOXIC accusation from @Matimio directed towards me creating "ultimatums" which I was upset because there is a lack of evidence of that. Matimio did everything in his power to try to jab at me with false accusations that he admits cannot prove besides me telling him to "back the fuck off" or something like that. Or one thing I said in the forum which is listed above. However, it was not a valid reason to be banned. It's like he was a police officer following you for miles in your car until you finally did something wrong. I admit, I said something like "back the fuck off." It was because he was aggressing his moderation power against me without just cause. Any reasonable person would be upset in that situation. I challenge everyone to find evidence besides what I said above my last paragraph of TOXICITY. It's all there on the discord; Please search the truth for your own eyes in the Decentraland DAO Discord.  **This narrative once again is a made up attack.**

Thank you for proving my point. No toxicity. I was asking questions. If anything @dax you were toxic by calling us whack. Could be seen as offensive. My questions were not disrespectful by any means.

[quote="CheddarQueso, post:36, topic:17773"] Your behavior has been called out each time, on the spot, and instead of being receptive and more respectful, you continue to deny any wrongdoing, and continue to ask for examples, although **we literally tell you, right when you are doing it, that you are doing it,** and you just keep saying, “all I’m doing is asking questions”. [/quote] [quote="Tudamoon, post:37, topic:17773"] You have zero evidence. I do find it very strange how no one can post screenshots of this stuff they claimed happened. [/quote] 

[quote="Tudamoon, post:37, topic:17773"] Well maybe you should follow her advice. Because I do recall I am friends with you on Discord and you could have messaged me instead of publicly lecturing me. This was a way to make you feel better about yourself or feel like you are “right.” This for me was kind of **rude** because while I have already been actively trying to be better about my behavior, you decided to rub it in more. [/quote] This is the second time you have told me that I should have messaged you in private. I have already told you before, that I don't need to message you in private regarding a public proposal, this thread is meant for us to discuss it here, and that is exactly what I will do... why would I message you in private about a DAO issue that concerns the whole community? We are friends on Discord, but we are not friends. I don't need to message you in private about anything. But as you said to me in your private message on Discord just now, This conversation is over, thank you.

[quote="CheddarQueso, post:36, topic:17773"] you are deflecting again [/quote] You are too, I want screenshots evidence proving that this happened. It NEVER happened. I was in fact only asking questions. Until I see evidence of this and the TOXICITY you speak of. You are DEFLECTING. You have zero evidence. I do find it very strange how no one can post screenshots of this stuff they claimed happened. Meanwhile I have more than shared my evidence. You are merely in words saying you agree with me, but you literally are attacking me without any evidence. This was not a conversation you need to be in. In fact, I feel like you are targeting me and this is purely toxic. Where is your evidence? As of now this is libel which I feel is toxic. [quote="CheddarQueso, post:36, topic:17773"] I encourage you to find a new approach of expressing yourself, so that others will be more receptive to your very important message. If they are not receptive, **be patient**, don’t barrage people or threads with the same questions, don’t jump to unfounded negative conclusions about other’s motives without concrete evidence, don’t be so reactive and apocalyptic, **allow time to be your friend and reveal some of the truths you try to shed light on**, (as so happened with the MT grant). [/quote] Well maybe you should follow her advice. Because I do recall I am friends with you on Discord and you could have messaged me instead of publicly lecturing me. This was a way to make you feel better about yourself or feel like you are "right." This for me was kind of **rude** because while I have already been actively trying to be better about my behavior, you decided to rub it in more. **Did you see one comment before this where I was deflecting? Where I wasn't being respectful? Have you seen anything in the last several weeks where my behavior was that?** If not, maybe you should stop being so toxic towards me and take back what you said. This is Web3. Anyone trying to teach others how to "behave" needs to be checked. I was following the rules. The problem is interpretations of them. Your interpretation of them is NOT the only way. It's merely your opinion. This cancel culture that people needs to end. Walking on Eggshells is what got us to where we are today. If someone finds the question offensive, they are the problem. Otherwise a reasonable person would just state the truth or the facts supporting their answer.

[quote="Tudamoon, post:34, topic:17773"] Please share examples so I can correct myself. I am not sure how to **behave** to your pleasing. [/quote] It is not to **my** pleasing @Tudamoon (you are deflecting again) it is in accordance with rules of engagement established in the Rules channel... and purely a general and well-adopted methodology for community moderation and facilitation used by professionals all over the world. Your behavior has been called out each time, on the spot, and instead of being receptive and more respectful, you continue to deny any wrongdoing, and continue to ask for examples, although **we literally tell you, right when you are doing it, that you are doing it,** and you just keep saying, "all I'm doing is asking questions". I am sorry to make you feel like I am "backhand slapping" you... it is not my intention.. I simply disagree with the way you address the community and I am not the only one that has expressed this feeling. Others have tried, nicely, to call out the way you communicate, and you have dismissed their suggestions. I am not gonna go back thru chats and forums to find "examples". It is unfathomable to me how you cannot see, even a little bit, how your behavior needs to change. **I agree with you**: you are not the only person displaying various degrees of toxic activity, and I agree that you have been overly targeted with the whole ban thing in comparison with others who also use name-calling, personal attacks, unfounded conspiracies, doxxing, and general petulant behavior. I hope the new Modinator will help the community self-moderate the BS. In closing... this is absolutely not an attack on your beliefs, as I have stated, I agree with some of the points that you bring up and have voiced that they are valid concerns... so I mostly agree with your beliefs... I am also very experienced with governance and community management, I am familiar with aggressive question asking, and your behavior unequivocally goes beyond that. I hope we can have you back in the discord, and if someone, at some point says, "Hey @Tudamoon, I agree with you, and I second your concerns, but the way you talk to people gets you absolutely nowhere, even when you are right" that you will take that, not as a personal attack on your beliefs, or dismissing your POV, but as a genuine advice to help you achieve the good work you are trying to do here. On a personal note: my mom is a retired Sergeant Major, one day she sat me down and told me "You're right, but guess what, being right will get you absolutely nowhere if you don't learn to control your temper and express yourself in a professional manner, you can say **the same thing** without kicking and screaming." I encourage you to find a new approach of expressing yourself, so that others will be more receptive to your very important message. If they are not receptive, **be patient**, don't barrage people or threads with the same questions, don't jump to unfounded negative conclusions about other's motives without concrete evidence, don't be so reactive and apocalyptic, **allow time to be your friend and reveal some of the truths you try to shed light on**, (as so happened with the MT grant). You are passionate about this community and I appreciate that passion, I am also passionate and upset about some of the same things you are upset about. This is a classic case of someone pushing your passionate button, over and over, and you've tried to be nice, and taco'bout it, but when you finally flip TF out and tell it like it is, then you look like the crazy aggressor and get sent to mod jail. I know that there are people in this community who are straight up unscrupulous, and they get away with draining DAO funds, just because they are good talkers, and "nice to people"... I know that is not your style, and it boils my blood just the same to see them get away with it... just like you, I see right thru the BS... but this is proof that... being a good communicator, and changing your approach will actually get you MORE of what you want to achieve. Try it. I appreciate your response to my comment, and thank you for being respectful of my opinion.

To be completely honest, anyone getting offended by a question, isn't offended by the question, they are offended by their answer. Their answer must have something wrong with it if they cannot answer confidently. I am under the assumption that generally questions are neutral, it's merely the answers that people get upset over and who's fault is that? The question asker or the person answering the question?

[quote="CheddarQueso, post:33, topic:17773"] but I’m not cool with the way you behave sometimes… [/quote] Please share examples so I can correct myself. I am not sure how to **behave** to your pleasing. [quote="CheddarQueso, post:33, topic:17773"] it is detrimental to the progress of DAO conversations and borderline toxic, disrespectful, overly dramatic, and it outweighs the value you bring to the community. [/quote] I find this like a backhand slap if you cannot provide examples so I can correct my behavior. I have been an aggressive question asker, however I claim to have had more ad hominem attacks against me without 1 person doing anything about it. In fact I even pointed it out when it happened and not one person had a problem with them calling me names. Meanwhile this seems like a target on my beliefs rather than my person because once again, I have not been given any evidence of wrongdoing, except just being told to **"correct my behavior."**

I think this vote is premature, but I understand that we are acting according to the rules when the ban took place, and I can see that the community is in favor of unbanning Tuda from the server... I can appreciate @Tudamoon because I am an experienced facilitator and community manager, and understand that certain characters and points of view are just part of the dynamic. I also agreed with **some** of the questions and points that Tuda has brought up, and in the past I have voiced that these were legitimate concerns. I am also adamant about the Rules of Engagement (as I call them in my own facilitation groups). Respect is the credo we live by and I have zero tolerance for unnecessary drama, personal attacks, unfounded conspiracy theories, general toxicity... and I agree with @Matimio and his justification for the ban. [quote="dao, post:1, topic:17773"] **Toxicity** - constant and insistent personal attacks and antagonistic engagement that made the discord and other governance forums an unsafe and uncomfortable environment, leading community members to refrain from posting in the server, and in many cases voting on proposals, due to fear of targeted, personal and public attacks. **Personal Attacks** - in the discord and on the forums used misinformation tactics, including the selective use of information and highlighting of old or irrelevant information to make prescient arguments and/or attacks. **Harassment** - continued and unrelenting monitoring and personal posting tagging of community members on forums and in discord and use of race-based attacks on the forums.” * [finally] Yes I did share my personal background because of my role, and did so in a professional way as part of our grant proposal. However, in this “governance proposal,” [to remove me from my position] the information about me you include in it and how it is laid out and framed, is a type of doxxing. It is entirely unnecessary and targeting and is in complete violation of the “norm” of pseudonymity that we operate under in our community, and as a result in itself could be viewed as a form of threat or harassment. [/quote] @Tudamoon I for one would like to invite you back to the server, because I believe your insistent nature, your eye for scrutiny and your input is valuable... but I'm not cool with the way you behave sometimes... it is detrimental to the progress of DAO conversations and borderline toxic, disrespectful, overly dramatic, and it outweighs the value you bring to the community. Do you, at all, feel that you should change the way you go about bringing up your concerns, starting with being more patient and respectful of other community members? If @Tudamoon is allowed back in the server, will the behavior above continue.. and are we ok with this? Thank you for taking the time to read my comments. :pray:

I am glad that you guys have come to this decision and am confident that now you will be able to make even bigger progress on your actual objectives. Thank you for your service and please do not be discouraged. We need you in the community @Matimio.

As the proposal says: [quote="dao, post:1, topic:17773"] In the interim period, the user will be allowed back into the discord, however muted in all channels. [/quote]

Ok nvm. you right this was just added. 

I dont get completely unbanned unless this passes.

Changing my vote to invalid since looks like @Tudamoon just got unbanned thus making this proposal invalid. 

Of course not, [to a degree] however, the implementation of the ban vs unban should have been done in the same fashion (discord vote). That's my opinion