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Freeze All non-Platform Grant Spending

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Author0x153b…364d
PublishedOct 10, 2023 04:46
Voting beginsOct 10, 2023 04:46
Voting endsOct 17, 2023 04:46
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General consensus in the community appears to be that while we all believe in the future of the platform, it is not Ready Player One. This proposal aims to freeze grant spending on anything other than platform grants to improve the technical abilities of DCL for the entirety of 2024 or until a proposal to reverse that is enacted. By "platform grants to improve technical abilities of DCL," this means no Platform grants to make art, builds, or anything that isn't primarily technical in nature.

15 Comments

BannedJan 26, 2024

You guys are commenting on the already passed draft proposal @PunkPink

daoOct 17, 2023

Freeze All non-Platform Grant Spending This proposal is now in status: PASSED. Voting Results: * Yes 73% 10,024,304 VP (99 votes) * No 24% 3,366,417 VP (19 votes) * Abstain 3% 535,349 VP (14 votes)

HPrivakosOct 17, 2023

[quote="RDixon, post:14, topic:20887"] A lot of creators need support converting from SDK6 to SDK7 right now and this would remove one of the last chances they have to get help. [/quote] We are also in a period where dumping large amount of MANA to pay those grants is pretty dumb. Especially for projects that already got 200k+ USD each. You can create a new whole game from scratch for this amount of money.

his_slowlifeOct 16, 2023

is it a bad joke? I agree that DCL has issues at least with new SDK 7 and it should be improved but freeze all grants is totally bad idea. Looking back and see ton thousands spent on everything is really not a good practice but now I see that guys w a lot of delegated MANA voting NO for any initiative without any freeze, let's develop Decentraland and grow instead of dying with such decisions

RDixonOct 16, 2023

As others have said, this seems very short-sighted and the timing isn't good. A lot of creators need support converting from SDK6 to SDK7 right now and this would remove one of the last chances they have to get help. I agree with @mattimus that existing content should not be judged through engagement metrics. The overall engagement numbers rise and fall in proportion to DCL's overall engagement. And without existing scenes working well, and new and interesting scenes being developed, overall engagement will continue to fall.

mattimusOct 13, 2023

I think a better option is to set limits per-proposal for each category and lower the amount for most categories. We should restrict grant periods, outside of platform, to a maximum of 3 months of funding so projects are expected to be very thoughtful with their budgeting and focus on aspects required to create their content and show successful progress to receive a future grant. Freezing other categories will inhibit activities of current grantees, potentially lose existing projects completely, and reduce the amount of quality content on the platform. We need a mix of content creation and advancing the platform, otherwise we will end up with a solid platform with nothing to do. We should enter some form of sustainability mode but I don't think that means 0 funding. I think it means very carefully planned spending on only what is absolutely necessary. I personally don't believe in-world content should be judged through engagement metrics at this time, but on quality of the experience. We need to build new experiences and sustain our current projects with the least amount of funding required until our user base can expand.

jar0dOct 13, 2023

@RobL I’m gonna delete this proposal if you don’t switch all your votes this quarter to abstain. You have a little more then a day You are free to vote to ban me, that’s fine.

MorphOct 12, 2023

We have to reduce spending for the simple fact we are putting too much downward pressure on Mana, and legitimately hurting the future of both the Foundation and DAOs reserves. Creators mostly need a functioning and growing platform, more than they need funding, and without a reduction on spending, we will have neither soon. However, I do not believe halting grants is the right move, we will only resurface this issue later on. I believe what we really need, is a HEAVY reduction of limits on all categories that are not platform related. I'm talking $10-20k per quarter AT MOST per category, with things like social media grants likely being even lower. While I think halting spend would help us short-term, I worry we will simply see a barrage of coordinated extractive grants once we resume in 2025. By reducing grant limits instead, we can continue to progress each category and find methods/strategy/oversight that will enable and work for the future.

jar0dOct 11, 2023

[quote="SugarClub, post:8, topic:20887"] Meanwhile let the content creators move on because why should we keep building experience for free indefinitely [/quote] where are you getting "indefinitely" from?

DedHeadJOct 11, 2023

I am going to abstain because I still believe we should have some funds available for proven creators: https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-225ed99-should-the-dao-institute-another-grant-freeze/20277/2?u=dedheadj

serenaOct 11, 2023

voting YES. Just recently saw they might have to dump 5.5 million mana to cover the cost on grants. Thats about over a million dollars isnt it ?. We are going overboard on spending. The best is to freeze, and restructure and come up with better structure. Also, theres lots of complaints on the daos spending habits and these complaints are coming from a handful of the the community members. So its only right to move forward from what they are looking for. Give the people what they want.

jar0dOct 10, 2023

Thanks for clarifying. As for this question [quote="dogman, post:4, topic:20887"] I know you mentioned this wouldnt be allowed but what is actually stopping it from happening?) [/quote] The same thing that stopped injester's grant that was submitted in the wrong category. A community member calls out that it is not a valid grant proposal, and then the GSS recommends to the DAO Committee to revoke it if it passes.

dogmanOct 10, 2023

Talked to a lot of people. I realized that there are projects that are somewhere in between platform and in world. Same with social media, Some education grants could be considered social media (youtube videos) but some would consider that a platform grant if it comes with open source resources. Also after further thought , I fear that this would encourage people to just write their grant in the platform cat if thats all there is ( I know you mentioned this wouldnt be allowed but what is actually stopping it from happening?) I think my initial thought was a little naive considering the current state of the dao. apologies for the confusion

jar0dOct 10, 2023

What changed? This draft Draft is basically verbatim what you wanted when commenting on the Poll. ![42sdfgs|516x154](upload://7rNupoMTI0VLwrpbBrVWgqjVB6l.jpeg)

dogmanOct 10, 2023

while I do think platform is the most important without question, I do not think we should totally freeze all other grants. Maybe we should just reevaluate the current budgets, increase the platform budget, and reduce other budgets. voting no for now but would like to hear other opinions